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[Cinae]

I don't know if this is just me, or what causes it.

Every once in awhile, completely on a random cycle it seems, when I pull 3-4 mobs and begin my AOE assault on them, they despawn.

While sometimes it saves my life due to unexpected circumstances, other times it is really irritating.

I have tried to reproduce this over and over and I see no logic behind it.

Frost magus by the way, I specced Storm for awhile (btw great potential in Storm) and did some AOE that way and never had the problem.

Although one could state that it is completely random it just might not have happened while you were Storm spec.

I honestly think it has something to do with Frozen Blood. My assumption there is that ALL of my ether/frost AOE's apply Frozen Blood. I put in a /ticket about the issue, I am just wondering if any other Frost Magus has had this happen to them.

[Parilis]

That's a possibility. As mentioned in the "Known Issues" of the last patch, we found one mob that would disappear when afflicted with Frozen Blood, so it's possible others do the same.

My question though is: do all the mobs disappear when this happens, or do set/random ones disappear? For instance, when you pull four of the same mob and hit them all with Frozen Blood, do all four disappear, or just one or two in the group? Further more, is it always the specific types of mobs? Maybe not the exact same names, but all the DAYSIX mobs, only yellow critters like the stags, or only humanoids/beasts?

Unfortunately there are tons of variables that have to be considered when looking into "random" bugs.

Thank you for the report though. Hopefully we'll get some more details on the issue so we can clear that up. You guys are definitely great at helping pin down issues like this.

[Xander]

I suppose now would be a good to time to post what I have run into, and describe the situautions I have come across to the best of my ability. Please bare with, as I am new at this whole forum posting thing!

My character of which I only have exp with this one, is a Magus...not of the frost path, but flame instead. Currently level 10, and all of my points are in the flame tree. I have found that not so much on multiple mobs, but sometimes when I am targeting a single mob, as us flame magus so often do, before I land the killing blow the mob will disappear.

So...I thought this was a bug that just randomly happened, and I took it upon myself to play around with it and try and find the cause. Then, I come across this post in the Magus forum, which I have been trolling recently. I noticed that the Frozen Blood affect was mentioned...the wheels in my head started to turn again.

I logged back in to my server (Adrios) and tested out a theory I had. I often finish off enemies at this point with a Cone of Cold...I believe the name of the spell is something to that effect. I also think it gives off the Frozen Blood effect. I would say about 1/3 of the time...the mob would just despawn when I pressed the hotkey for the spell, but when using other spells to finish off mobs this did not seem to happen.

I hope this bit of info help!

Please keep up the great work...I know that you all are working hard to make Alganon the game will all want it to be!

Thx for your time...

Edited by Xander, 15 December 2009 - 02:23 AM.

[Cinae]

Ok, after a little Dr.Watson deductive reasoning I came to a conclusion, although beit random still but a conclusion nonetheless.

Humanoids only as far as I can tell, no certain class of humanoid, just any random group at any given time.

If I pull the multiples with Frostbite and they each have a one frozen blood on them at the time they all reach me and I start the ether blast, ether wave, cone of cold, ether blast, shatter routine NONE of them disappear.

Now if I pull only one with Frostbite and start the AOE rotation when they do despawn ALL despawn BUT the original I pulled with Frostbite. *Pulled the others with instants*

Now if I just run around like a lunatic and aggro a few then Storm Shock them and back off to get the Pulse Bomb on one and chain lighting etc, etc, then start the AOE they will all at any given random time despawn.

So I guess my conclusion is, when Frozen blood is applied via Frostbite there is no chance of despawning, when it is applied in any other form there is a chance of mob despawnination.

Also, I could be way off base here and it could just be my character seems how he has many issues as of late.

Mhantra ~ you ever have these issues?

Edit: I also thought I should mention that I can kill mobs over and over using nothing but Frostbite and they NEVER despawn.

Only seems to happen when Ether Wave is cast and on rarer occasions Cone of Cold.

Edit2: If you wanted to test this out the place where I see it happen most than any other is the Snickerclaws near Chopped Fields/Mechanax area.

Also I would like add, when I just had 6 Snickerclaws on me and I did the AOE rotation then when I hit Shatter, they all despawned except one that died.

Edited by Cinae, 15 December 2009 - 05:56 AM.

[Nightvision]

We believe this issue is now solved, of course pending the next patch. If you're still seeing it after the patch let me know by posting in this thread. Thanks everybody!

[Mhantra]

Ok, after a little Dr.Watson deductive reasoning I came to a conclusion, although beit random still but a conclusion nonetheless.

Humanoids only as far as I can tell, no certain class of humanoid, just any random group at any given time.

If I pull the multiples with Frostbite and they each have a one frozen blood on them at the time they all reach me and I start the ether blast, ether wave, cone of cold, ether blast, shatter routine NONE of them disappear.

Now if I pull only one with Frostbite and start the AOE rotation when they do despawn ALL despawn BUT the original I pulled with Frostbite. *Pulled the others with instants*

Now if I just run around like a lunatic and aggro a few then Storm Shock them and back off to get the Pulse Bomb on one and chain lighting etc, etc, then start the AOE they will all at any given random time despawn.

So I guess my conclusion is, when Frozen blood is applied via Frostbite there is no chance of despawning, when it is applied in any other form there is a chance of mob despawnination.

Also, I could be way off base here and it could just be my character seems how he has many issues as of late.

Mhantra ~ you ever have these issues?

Edit: I also thought I should mention that I can kill mobs over and over using nothing but Frostbite and they NEVER despawn.

Only seems to happen when Ether Wave is cast and on rarer occasions Cone of Cold.

Edit2: If you wanted to test this out the place where I see it happen most than any other is the Snickerclaws near Chopped Fields/Mechanax area.

Also I would like add, when I just had 6 Snickerclaws on me and I did the AOE rotation then when I hit Shatter, they all despawned except one that died.

Absolutely great work, Cinae! Strangely, maybe once have I ever seen a mob disappear. It sounds like they could get it fixed before I could join in on this (bummer...I mean yay!). I use a ton of Frostbites while pulling one, then while tanking it, pulling another with 3 frostbites, and refreshing with a cone of cold, then shattering etc while periodically tossing a Pulse Bomb on one.

You talk about Ether Wave. I used to use that a lot nut sort of stopped the spamming of the 3 AOEs. However, I JUST got the second point in the ability that gives you the FB by using the other two (essesnce) AOEs. I bet I would have used a lot more potentially bug-producing AOEs on my very next login.

I will watch after the patch to see where this had led.

Again, nice testing!