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#1 Swift

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Posted 02 May 2006 - 09:55 PM

I know this is Crusade and not Horizons, but...

Dragons were part of original Horizons along with other great races like the insect people, can't think of their name, which I was looking forward to the most. From what I played and read about Horizons, Dragons were done fairly poorly. So...

I hope the the four races yet to be announced for Crusade are not good elf and evil elf or good dwarf and evil dwarf. How about Asheroth griffins and evil Kujix dragons? It would be great to have a Non-Humanoid type race for both lands. One that doesn't use the same weapons and gear as the other races and use abilities that grow... claws, bite, or breath.

Knowing that David Allen is with Crusade I hope we will see some of the great ideas, already have families, that made me look forward to original Horizons.

Here's wishing the best for Crusade...

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Posted 02 May 2006 - 11:55 PM

While we are still hashing out all the races, I can say with confidence that there will be at least one that isn't "human like". :)

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Posted 03 May 2006 - 01:08 PM

Glad to hear that, that's alot better than endless elf variants. Of course a Non-Humanoid that doesn't play the same way as other races, say a Worg or Sphinx, would really stand out and give a unique play experience.

I'm looking goward to seeing what Crusade has in the wings. Oh, if it's Minotaurs please no bare chested ones, full fur looks better. :)

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Posted 03 May 2006 - 02:21 PM

While we are still hashing out all the races, I can say with confidence that there will be at least one that isn't "human like". :)


sounds great! =)

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Posted 04 May 2006 - 12:28 AM

While we are still hashing out all the races, I can say with confidence that there will be at least one that isn't "human like". :)


sounds great! =)


Agree here, I'm ALL about the different experience that a non-human or even a not-anywhere-near-human race can offer. I look forward to learning more there.

#6 Taenuarhew

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Posted 04 May 2006 - 06:12 PM

I spend a good deal of time in the end product of horizons, and eventually became an ancient dragon. I really saw WAY to many... weird, people playing dragons just because they were dragons, 'vore' fans, scallies, and even worse things I'd care not to even remember about. For much of my time there these things just went over my head. But horizons got really really hard to play when I started noticing and realized how much I had been oblivious to previously. But I knew many who got driven out of the game by these other people, it's one thign to put them on ignore, another if they still follow you around while being naked. Maybe in a more populated game the Devs would be more inclined to ban this sort...

So I'd really prefer to see other types of non humanoids then the general fantasy creatures like dragons and griffins. Like say giant intelligent bears, spirit creatures, or living statues of some kind. Not snake people or cat people.

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Posted 05 May 2006 - 12:54 AM

Hey, nagas and cat-people are cool.

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Posted 05 May 2006 - 03:34 AM

I used to think that they were cool too, and I'm fine with others feeling they are good. My own experiences gave me opinions on lizardmen/cat people, but they are also more of a been there done that. If they are going to have 6 races, I'd prefer they not include dwarves, elves, naga, catpeople, halfgiants, minos, or anything else that's been done. The half elf half demon things are pretty neat, I'd just like to see other different hybrids or monsters as races, rather then the norm, like bugs or other animal/demons or hybrids.

Now I can understand some people who'd like to play an elf, and I've got nothing against dwarves or elves. But if we are only going to have 6 races at release, let's have some new faces. But that's just my opinion. And I'm sure David has a few picked out that he's sure to have, like maybe good elves which are very popular, far more then dwarves or orcs I'd add.

Humans however are 'always' in style. Sometimes people just want to experance a different world from a personal perspective and 'not' having humans would hurt any player base more then any other race, period. So it's good to know they're in.

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Posted 05 May 2006 - 06:22 AM

Taenuarhew, if you get a chance and you're in a game store, take a look at Arcana Evolved. It's a setting by Monte Cook and it's not humano-centric. In fact, it's VERY different from what people normally think of as fantasy. It's a great alternative to D&D or d20, very well done.

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Posted 05 May 2006 - 03:16 PM

Well that's a pen and paper game, and I was refering to MMORPGS. But I suppose you knew that. Still it's been a while since my gaming group has gotten off its arse to do anything constructive enough to play some pen and paper games again.

#11 Morneblade

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Posted 05 May 2006 - 03:28 PM

On a personal note, I hope they do have either a lizardman or a Yuan-ti (abomination) PC race in the game. Horizons is the only MMO that had a lizardman, and to date there has not been a game with a playable snakeman race, so they really haven't been done.

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Posted 05 May 2006 - 04:40 PM

On a personal note, I hope they do have either a lizardman or a Yuan-ti (abomination) PC race in the game. Horizons is the only MMO that had a lizardman, and to date there has not been a game with a playable snakeman race, so they really haven't been done.


Ummm, didn't EQ1 and EQ2 both have playable lizardmen? Frogs, and other stuff like that?


Edit: At least EQ2 does
http://everquest2.station.sony.com/en/main.vm#racesFroglok
http://everquest2.station.sony.com/en/main.vm#racesIksar

And I've seen other MMORPG games released that had lizardmen, just can't remember.

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 08:23 AM

Frogloks and Iksars were in Everquest I.

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Posted 09 May 2006 - 08:41 PM

Here is to hoping we get Angels / Fiends as a playable race. I really wanted something different like Horizons promised but never materialized.

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 09:26 PM

Yeah, lizardmen have been around in games for a long time.

Hell, WoW has fricken bulls as a playable race.

However, I seriously hope this game will indeed have non-bipedal races (read: more than one)

One of the coolest features about Horizons was it adding dragons. Not because of the fact that it's dragons (then again, dragons are cool) but because it's the first MMO to date that I know of to feature a non-humanoid (bipedal) race.

Variety is key, and having everyone look exactly the same just with a different skin tone, maybe an adjsuted height and modified ears here and there aren't enough of a real difference if you think about it...

Quadrapedal races or draconic races would be cool.

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 11:23 PM

Someone told me a game in development has two races, angels and demons. I don't know the name.

I guess the main reason most races are humanoid is because that's what most people want to play. However, I too would like to see non-humanoid races for my friends, who want that.

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 05:42 AM

On a personal note, I hope they do have either a lizardman or a Yuan-ti (abomination) PC race in the game. Horizons is the only MMO that had a lizardman, and to date there has not been a game with a playable snakeman race, so they really haven't been done.


Ummm, didn't EQ1 and EQ2 both have playable lizardmen? Frogs, and other stuff like that?


Edit: At least EQ2 does
http://everquest2.station.sony.com/en/main.vm#racesFroglok
http://everquest2.station.sony.com/en/main.vm#racesIksar

And I've seen other MMORPG games released that had lizardmen, just can't remember.

Only games I know that have lizardmen are EQ and HZ out of dozens of games, so it's not like they show up all the time.
And both those games suck dirty bathwater.
I don't know of any game that has snake people as a PC, or Oooooooo, a shark-man!!

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 06:18 AM

I want cyborgs and beasts and mutants ala Sa~Ga (aka Final Fantasy Legend for Game Boy).

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 04:52 AM

*chuckles* You all with your lizard people and crazy hissy cat people.
It is all fun and fun, but hey rideable creatures is where we need to be going.
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Take this guy for an example he is just cool looking. Wouldn't you rather combine him and a dragon and not just play them seperatly?
Wouldn't it be joyful to take him catch a dragon or a mythical creature and just train the creature to be rideable?

This also could make another sub-class from the planters.
IT would be intresting to have to buy creatures from PCS and the the PCS caught and cultivised the animals. Well thats my two cents *drolls about casting spells from his dragon*[/img]

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Posted 23 May 2006 - 03:33 AM

Yeah, it'd be cool to have odd things like that, but I'd rather be the dragon than ride on the dragon. More power to me and all that.

Though who's to say centaur, griffins and the like aren't viable?




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