Posted 21 May 2006 - 05:54 PM
I needed to speak out about this for two reasons: First of all, I think it's safe to assume that this game is being funded. Someone or a group of someones is investing a lot of money into the production of this title. That being said I was shocked to see that quality as poor as this is actually receiving money for production. I find it hard to believe that an investor read that story and said, "Brilliant! I want to see more." Secondly, as a game design student I regularly research game development companies to see what kinds of titles they are producing. This gives me an idea as to what kinds of ideas, and what standards of quality need to be met in order to make it in the industry. I was so surprised that a back story so poorly written as this one was actually a part of a title in development that I had to say something.
I won't go into further detail about how bad the story is in this post, but if after reading it for yourselves you don't see what I'm getting please respond to this post and we can talk about it.
Posted 22 May 2006 - 04:29 AM
The History of Andarus
The First Age: A Time Forgotten
Long ago, the world of Andarus was born unto the gods as a gift from the universe. Out of respect to the universe for its gift, the gods blessed Andarus by creating a master race of giants. These ancients were known as the colossus-born. They were the Children of the gods, and were said to be towering creatures of such size and might that they could move the very mountains themselves with only their hands. They built magnificent cities that reached into the heavens, and dug so deep into the planet they not only controlled, but drank of the blood of the earth. When the colossus-born were at war with each other, entire continents broke apart, and the very center of the planet shook with fury.
When the colossus-born thought they had mastered all of the world and all living things, they abandoned their gods, believing themselves to be just as powerful. The gods had no choice, but to strike down a number of the colossus-born as a sign of their superior power, and to serve as a warning. Unfortunately, the gods did not anticipate the response from their creation. Pure focused rage towards the gods and what they had done consumed the massive race. They tore the planet apart in blind rage and fury; if the gods would not recognize their power, then they would destroy their world!
Heartbroken with such a wave of guilt and sadness, the gods responded the only way they could. They struck down the colossus-born; every last one. In an instant, their massive cities, their culture, language, magic, and love for Andarus was gone forever.
The Second Age: Devastation
Andarus had been devastated. The damage was nearly unmanageable. The gods considered abandoning the world, but the remaining tattered remnants of life clinging on just to survive caught their already wounded hearts.
The gods contemplated the source of their now lost children's demise; what mistake had been made? They realized that the mistake had been in creating their children as giants; nearly gods themselves - able to dominate the world any way that they saw fit.
The gods would not make the same mistake again.
It was decided that they would create new races; tough, intelligent, capable races that would help rebuild the world. But what races would they create? Forests needed to be planted, cities needed to be built, oceans needed to be cleaned, animals needed to be controlled, and most importantly, the gods needed to be worshiped.
They created numerous species to test the result of different breeds and environments. They populated the land, water, and air with both animals and sentient beings of all kinds; however most of the sentient beings did not actively work to rebuild the world to the gods wishes because they did not have proper direction. The gods also learned that they would have to create new races that were physically built for specific tasks.
Once the gods saw that their world needed different species to accomplish different feats in rebuilding their world they created the diggers which would dig into mother earth and retrieve materials for building the great cities that would dot their earth. The gods then created the builders who would take earth
Posted 28 May 2006 - 08:02 AM
Posted 29 May 2006 - 03:20 PM
With WoW, Blizzard had the huge advantage of developing a game for which a ponderous amount of lore had already been established, with a staff that was probably already steeped in the content throught the strategy games. The timeline document on Blizzard's WoW page is extremely extensive.
I think that for purposes of efficiency, games in early development don't usually tackle lore extensively. The people who develop the lore are often also the game programmers, and when you have investors looking for palpable, visual progress in the project, their time is probably better spent in the code than in writing up lore. I expect that as Quest Online grows to accommodate the project's needs, we'll see more lore coming down the line as they are able to apply the manpower to it.
That said, I also appreciate well-written lore. I think too many game companies have programmers writing up history and quest dialogs and such, and while programming and writing need not be mutually exclusive, I expect that there's probably an untapped resource of powerfully creative people with English degrees who don't get utilized by this industry as often as they should. It's certainly in MY top5 list of dream jobs. But I really appreciate the well-crafted dialog of WoW, and when I try out other games and see terrible writing right off the bat, it's a huge turn-off.
So, I'm lenient with Crusade, given their circumstances, but I do expect better in the future. Kudos to frankadelli for his frank (ha ha) assessment of the current lore, though.
Posted 05 June 2006 - 11:09 AM
Basically, he's a genius when it comes to writing groundbreakingly original games, loaded with new ideas, and being life-screwingly addictive.
As for Crusade, well, the basic ideas in terms of the game mechanics are already in his head; Crusade will be what we all wish H:EoI was: DA's vision.
If I were an investor looking to make big bucks, I would give DA every cent I had, with free reign to spend it all on whatever he wished - beer if he wanted to - because I know that the beer would somehow turn into an awesome idea that would make me rich.
You, as an aspiring game developer, look upon the information released about Crusade and think "Hmm, underdeveloped and boring..." but if you look upon the information released about the old H (damn, just the immersion of the world.... gah! sorry...) then you will see that the truth is that Crusade is very nearly all designed; now it just has to be made.
Well, of course, I might be wrong (and there have no doubt been a million new ideas in the last 5 years that he will incorporate into his vision) but have no doubt that Crusade will be the most World-Rich, immersive game you are ever likely to stumble across.
And if any venture capitalists are reading this post... give DA your money. All of it. Now. ;-)
Posted 05 June 2006 - 10:42 PM
Personally, I'm glad to see that he doesn't try to make himself a celebrity.. no "DAVID ALLEN PRESENTS" in big letters on the home page, thankfully. While I don't like his games too much, Brad McQuaid seems like a decent guy (we used to play the same MUD, back in the day)... but there's a degree of idolatry going on in the Vanguard forums that is almost painful to observe. I just hope their beta testers are being good testers and not fanboys who won't criticize the content.
Anyway... as I said, writing up lore is probably just not a tremendous priority at the moment. I'm sure most of it is firmly in his head or scribbled down in notepads, pending refinement, but I'm not too worried about it yet.
Posted 26 July 2006 - 08:13 PM
In the weeks and months it takes to develop the live game, a great amount of history could be set down in the pages of the forum.
Posted 13 July 2008 - 12:55 AM
Posted 01 August 2008 - 03:55 AM
Why do your posts cut off like this? It's happened to a few of them.
The world history was specifically presented in its first version as a template; not a complete compendium. The nearly unlimited directions we can take the game from a historical perspective will come from this core template, but it
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